665

25] MS. BERRY: Hi. The Registration

1] Committee, some of whom are here, has worked very

2] hard this year; and I really would like to

3] acknowledge the fact that every member of this

4] committee worked, submitted proposals, discussion,

5] completed their assignments and voted on

6] everything. So it may be a first time in ADGA

7] history that the entire committee worked. And

8] they really did a wonderful job. I'm proud of

9] them.

10] We had a lot of things to do this year; and

11] so just very quickly these are the subjects we'll

12] be addressing, and I'll talk about them each

13] individually: The Sables last year the board

14] directed us, Jamie Burks made a proposal that we

15] look at, that we consider a sub herd book for

16] Sables. In addition to that President Considine

17] instructed us to look at all the possibilities

18] that might include where we could put the Sable

19] Saanen dairy goats.

20] We certainly did that. We went for just

21] looking at a sub herd book. We consulted the

22] Saanen breeders and asked them to do a survey,

23] which they did, and returned to us with

24] interesting results. We contacted the American

25] Kennel Club. Paul Adams in the back had a long

1] correspondence with the American Kennel Club.

2] Greta Meyer contacted the Paint Horse Association.

3] We had information from the Angus, Red Angus, Red

4] Holstein, Angora Goats.

5] I have, I've brought all the stuff here,

6] the evidence in case somebody says "Well, what did

7] you do?" Well, we did a whole lot of stuff. And

8] we got really very fascinating correspondence

9] back; and it really did help us a lot in

10] formulating the proposal that we're going to bring

11] to you on Sables.

12] We had some charges on the Nigerian Dwarf

13] admission to the registry; and we also covered

14] those including how we would do reregistrations

15] and the prefix that would occur in front of the

16] Nigerian Dwarf reregistered into the American

17] Dairy Goat Association.

18] We discussed breed designations within the

19] Experimental Registry, and we have a proposal on

20] that. We discussed microchipping; and we are

21] privileged to have Elsie McCoy here from EZ ID --

22] they gave me a pen so I wouldn't forget who they

23] are -- who is going to answer any questions that

24] we have on microchipping. We discussed

25] registration of animals with breed specific

1] disqualifications, which was also brought up at

2] last year's meeting and which Alice Orzechowski

3] worked hard to bring a proposal to us, which we

4] will be bringing to you. Reregistration of

5] animals with breed specific qualifications,

6] because once you decide that they can't be

7] registered you have to decide what happens.

8] Cloning. Electronic registrations, we are coming

9] up with a proposal on that. And a proposal on a

10] Lamancha tweak, tweak for that herd book.

11] Does everybody have their Sable proposal?

12] Moving right along to our first proposal. You all

13] received a copy of the proposal. Now this has

14] been 23 years in the making actually and longer

15] than that. I have quotations from "Saanen Roots"

16] here which I'll read if we have time.

17] But basically we've been looking at what to

18] do with the colored Saanens for 23 years. I

19] remember when Don West brought this to the

20] Registration Committee in 1981; and at that time

21] we did not feel that we had enough information to

22] do a separate herd book; but we did approve a

23] breed standard to put in for Sable breeders to

24] work towards. And many people have worked on this

25] through the years; and especially Don West and

669

1] Diane Gray should be recognized for the hard work

2] they did. But they've met with many brick walls;

3] and I was one of them.

4] And, you know, I have to tell you sometimes

5] we grow up and mature; and as I looked at this

6] situation through the years and gathered more

7] information and realized the frequency with which

8] the Sables were born into the Saanen breed I

9] realized that they really did need a place to go.

10] And even last year when we presented a proposal

11] which wasn't acceptable to the board I was looking

12] for what to do. So we came up with a different

13] proposal this year; and it's basically the same

14] proposal that the International Sable Breeders

15] brought to us last year.

16] The big difference with our proposal last

17] year and their proposal was their proposal allowed

18] for the direct migration from the Saanen Purebred

19] and Saanen American herd books into a Sable herd

20] book. I have worked very hard with Donna Palmer

21] all year who is the person who has worked on this

22] for the Sable breeders; and she put together this

23] wonderful book. The Executive Committee agreed

24] with the Registration Committee that all the

25] information needed to be verified. And so Jim

1] Wilson, who is to be thanked both by the

2] Registration Committee and the Sable Breeders,

3] verified all the pedigrees in here. So this is

4] not information that the Sable Breeders came up

5] with. This is from the herd books in our office.

6] I'm not going to go -- you have had this

7] for a couple of days, and you've had the proposal

8] since August 31st, so I hope you have read it.

9] DR. DEAN ROWE: Could I get a

10] clarification about the list of animals?

11] MS. BERRY: Yes.

12] DR. DEAN ROWE: I think the report

13] said that some owners had the opportunity to

14] voluntarily remove their animals.

15] MS. BERRY: Yes.

16] DR. DEAN ROWE: Did all owners

17] have a chance to see that their animals would be

18] included in this? That was a point that came up

19] last year, I believe.

20] MS. BERRY: What I suggested to

21] Donna was that if we had any information that

22] there was any question that a breeder did not want

23] their animal in here, that she contact them

24] personally and ask them permission, which she did.

25] So to the best of my knowledge the animals are in

1] here with the agreement of the owners.

2] MR. DANIEL CONSIDINE: Okay. It's

3] before you as a package to basically accept

4] proposal number one; and the details of proposal

5] number one are the explanations in this booklet.

6] Rowe.

7] DR. DEAN ROWE: Please be patient

8] with me, Lelia.

9] MS. BERRY: Yes.

10] DR. DEAN ROWE: But could you

11] describe then the process by which --

12] MS. BERRY: Sure.

13] DR. DEAN ROWE: -- what happens to

14] the colored goats going one way and what happens

15] to the white goats going the other way?

16] MS. BERRY: Yes. You haven't read

17] the proposal.

18] DR. DEAN ROWE: Well, I have;

19] but --

20] MS. BERRY: That's okay. I

21] thought I might have to do this. And if you'll

22] look at the statistics in here, the front page, I

23] had her, Donna put the particulars of the

24] statistics in here so that you would be able to

25] see them. And the numbers here in the database